Mozella Ademiluyi understands failure, resilience, and hard-won success. Her inspirational book, Rise!: Lean Within Your Inner Power & Wisdom, documents her thwarted attempt to summit Kilimanjaro at the age of 50, which led to her standing atop Africa’s highest peak a decade later. Mozella wanted to share her battle with self-doubt, limiting beliefs, and straight-up fear with other high achievers– those of us who never really feel quite up to snuff. And to impart some leadership lessons, which all begin with conquering oneself.

In our (26-minute) interview, we discuss the challenge of using extended metaphors, like climbing a big mountain, when writing a full-length book; downloads from the Universe, and how her parents’ challenges inspired her to climb a mountain and write this book.